gunkerle
2008-04-07, 05:07
Hello everyone,
I have some problems with respect to the output variable
VENER. I simulate a visco-elastic material using time domain proy series data to simulate the viscous behaviour. The aim is to simulate the thermo-mechanical behaviour of the material. I am using the C3D8T elements. As it is a dynamic simulation I am using the explicit solver. For output purposes all energies in the Field output and all kinds of energies in the history output options are toggled on. I am using fully coupled simulations. The simulation consists of a cyclic and non-cyclic loading part.
My problem is as follows:
I get the output for ALLVD. Thus Abaqus seems to calculate the time integrated value for the the viscous energy.
But I get no value, more precisely only the value "0" for the variable VENER.
I looked into the manual in order to find out if I need something else and I found some discrepancies in the description regarding the output for viscous energies in Abaqus:
Due to the explanation in the ouput variable index it is valid:
VENER (=viscous energy density)
Energy dissipated by viscous effects, per unit volume.
.fil: no .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
Thus the variable VENER should only exists as HISTORY OUTPUT. But There exists no variable VENER.
As mentioned before I have the problem, that I get results for
ALLVD (VD= viscous dissipation)
Energy dissipated by viscous effects.
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
but no results (only results "0") for the variable VENER.
On a different site in the manual the following statement is written:
The energy ALLCD is the output variable for visco-elastic dissipation,
but ALLCD stands for CREEP-Dissipation this ist - to my best knowledge NOT identical with the visco-elastic dissipation of a pure viso-elastic material (no plasticity involved).
Is this correct?
ALLCD,
Energy dissipated by viscoelasticity. (Not supported for hyperelastic and hyperfoam
material models.)
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
To make things worse:
Only the ALLCD (but not the energy part for viscous dissipation ALLVD !!) energy is included into the total strain energy ALLIE (see below).
ALLIE
Total strain energy. (ALLIE=ALLSE + ALLPD + ALLCD + ALLAE + ALLDMD+ ALLDC+ ALLFC.)
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
But ALLVD IS part of the total energy ETOTAL. As you can see ALLVD is an additional part of the TOTAL ENERGY.
ETOTAL
Energy balance defined as: ALLKE + ALLIE + ALLVD + ALLFD + ALLIHE ? ALLWK ? ALLPW ? ALLCW
? ALLMW ? ALLHF. (Available only for the whole model.)
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
I now have the following qustions:
1.)
Why is no contribution of the viscous part included into the strain energy part?
2.)
How can I get results for the variable VENER?
Meaning: Do I need other variables than the energy densities (in Field Ouput) or Energies in History Output or do I need special elements to do this (other than C3D8T)? I am calculating a fully coupled simulation, because I need the interaction between the themical and mechanical behaviour.
3.) How is it possible to include the ALLVD part into the total strain energy, menaing how can I define a contribution on my own?
If I am defining my own heat source I need at least the contents of the variable VENER and possible and a modified version of the strain energy ALLIE.
In the moment in Abaqus Explicit there IS NO viscous dissipative energy contribution defined as a heat source. In order to be able to code my own heat source using Abaqus explicit I need access to the viscous variables in Abaqus, but as stated above in the moment it does not work as it should.
I hope someone can help me
ciao gunkerle
I have some problems with respect to the output variable
VENER. I simulate a visco-elastic material using time domain proy series data to simulate the viscous behaviour. The aim is to simulate the thermo-mechanical behaviour of the material. I am using the C3D8T elements. As it is a dynamic simulation I am using the explicit solver. For output purposes all energies in the Field output and all kinds of energies in the history output options are toggled on. I am using fully coupled simulations. The simulation consists of a cyclic and non-cyclic loading part.
My problem is as follows:
I get the output for ALLVD. Thus Abaqus seems to calculate the time integrated value for the the viscous energy.
But I get no value, more precisely only the value "0" for the variable VENER.
I looked into the manual in order to find out if I need something else and I found some discrepancies in the description regarding the output for viscous energies in Abaqus:
Due to the explanation in the ouput variable index it is valid:
VENER (=viscous energy density)
Energy dissipated by viscous effects, per unit volume.
.fil: no .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
Thus the variable VENER should only exists as HISTORY OUTPUT. But There exists no variable VENER.
As mentioned before I have the problem, that I get results for
ALLVD (VD= viscous dissipation)
Energy dissipated by viscous effects.
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
but no results (only results "0") for the variable VENER.
On a different site in the manual the following statement is written:
The energy ALLCD is the output variable for visco-elastic dissipation,
but ALLCD stands for CREEP-Dissipation this ist - to my best knowledge NOT identical with the visco-elastic dissipation of a pure viso-elastic material (no plasticity involved).
Is this correct?
ALLCD,
Energy dissipated by viscoelasticity. (Not supported for hyperelastic and hyperfoam
material models.)
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
To make things worse:
Only the ALLCD (but not the energy part for viscous dissipation ALLVD !!) energy is included into the total strain energy ALLIE (see below).
ALLIE
Total strain energy. (ALLIE=ALLSE + ALLPD + ALLCD + ALLAE + ALLDMD+ ALLDC+ ALLFC.)
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
But ALLVD IS part of the total energy ETOTAL. As you can see ALLVD is an additional part of the TOTAL ENERGY.
ETOTAL
Energy balance defined as: ALLKE + ALLIE + ALLVD + ALLFD + ALLIHE ? ALLWK ? ALLPW ? ALLCW
? ALLMW ? ALLHF. (Available only for the whole model.)
.fil: yes .odb Field: no .odb History: yes
I now have the following qustions:
1.)
Why is no contribution of the viscous part included into the strain energy part?
2.)
How can I get results for the variable VENER?
Meaning: Do I need other variables than the energy densities (in Field Ouput) or Energies in History Output or do I need special elements to do this (other than C3D8T)? I am calculating a fully coupled simulation, because I need the interaction between the themical and mechanical behaviour.
3.) How is it possible to include the ALLVD part into the total strain energy, menaing how can I define a contribution on my own?
If I am defining my own heat source I need at least the contents of the variable VENER and possible and a modified version of the strain energy ALLIE.
In the moment in Abaqus Explicit there IS NO viscous dissipative energy contribution defined as a heat source. In order to be able to code my own heat source using Abaqus explicit I need access to the viscous variables in Abaqus, but as stated above in the moment it does not work as it should.
I hope someone can help me
ciao gunkerle